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post Oct 20 2003, 00:10
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Any info, spottings, pictures would be cool to see here. I owned the Blue La Grande when I was 19!
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post Oct 20 2003, 00:41
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I have always wondered, were all 1975 SB called "La Grande"? I mean was it the 1975 Super Beetle La Grande or just a 1975 La Grande.


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post Oct 20 2003, 01:09
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These were Special Edition Supers to the best of my knowledge.

1975 was the last year for the Super Beetle Sedan, and that car came with regular upholstery, dash and wheels...sun-roof optional!

The only reason I knew my car was a La Grande Bug back then was the engine lid badge. I wasn't into Special Editions like I am today!
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post Oct 20 2003, 05:59
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never seen one but know someone w/green la grande deck lid like to see some pics :thumbs-up:


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post Oct 21 2003, 00:03
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Milo if you can find a pic that would be great! :thumbs-up:
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post Oct 21 2003, 05:54
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IT'S only the deck lid no pics right now try to get some though SORRY!! :-( if I can i will post them asap :thumbs-up:


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post Oct 21 2003, 12:05
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all 1975 super beetles sedans are la grande special editions! so, itīs not a rare model.

1975 convertible and flat windshied beetles were available only normal models.
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post Oct 21 2003, 16:16
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I remember seeing a green one in a junkyard in Jersey about ten years ago.  The car lookind like it was just parked there, well, except for the rusty floors.


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post Oct 21 2003, 23:08
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Thanks for setting the record straight!
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post Oct 22 2003, 11:53
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oasis, records are not yet correct!

here comes correct paintcodes for all 1975 beetle models!

SUPER BEETLE SEDAN

-L97B ancona blue metallic
-L98B lime green metallic
-L99B harvest gold metallic
and there is even fourth la grande super beetle body color!
-L96N lime green = only one of the latest la grandes)

no others colors available for super beetle sedans!

ALL LA GRANDE MODELS!!!

SUPER BEETLE CONVERTIBLE

-L99D mayan green
-L13K sunflower yellow
-L20C fiesta orange
-L30C malaga red
-L31M scarlet red
-L50C laguna blue

BEETLE SEDANS (NOT SUBER BEETLES)

-L10A rallye yellow
-L31A african red
-L51C miami blue
-L13H ceylon beige
-L20A chrome yellow
-L61A rallye green
-L61H alpine green

so, what will you say now???

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post Oct 22 2003, 12:30
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As I said a few posts ago, I have always wondered also because to the best of my knowledge they were all, the 1975 Supers, called "La Grande". However, I have not researched this at all so it's just opinion. Regardless, oasis did make a good post so we'll just have to do some work to find the true answer.


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QUOTE (oasis @ Oct. 21 2003,14:48)
Finally, La Grande was pronounced "la grahnd" and not "la grahn∙day."  The name seems ambiguous to me since grande is an adjective in Spanish so placing a la in front to make it look like a noun is confusing.  I believe there is a grand but no grande in French.  I could be wrong as I am no linguist.

Online translation:

Spanish = "the great one"
French = "the large one"


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post Oct 22 2003, 20:36
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I am out of town for the moment(till Friday) for VW school, but when I get home, I can check the J T Garwood book on this stuff.  He really seems to have all the USA info in there.  I only have limited computer access for now.


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post Oct 22 2003, 22:53
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QUOTE (oasis @ Oct. 22 2003,12:10)
Oh my goodness, maybe being banned from this site in the next month or two or whatever won't be such a bad thing after all...

LOL...Let's not get testy here. I'm 99.9% sure that all '75 Supers were NOT all La Grande Bugs. A bit more research...if someone has a scan of the orig. 1975 VW information it would be great to post it here.
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post Oct 23 2003, 01:08
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vw79 & oasis,

educated debate, yes
hot headed arguement, no

www.sebeetles.com/lagrandebug.htm


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QUOTE (oasis @ Oct. 22 2003,14:10)
If all '75s were La Grande, they wouldn't be a special editions wouldn't they?

Makes sense to me.


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post Oct 23 2003, 22:05
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Excellent post Oasis....I'll meet you at 5 if you get there before me I'll take an Absolute rocks with a Bud chaser!.....Thanks!  :thumbs-up:
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post Oct 24 2003, 22:21
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hey I'm back from VW school now, so here is the info from the J. T. Garwood book.  It would seem that all the USA '75 Supers were in fact La Grande editions.  He mentions that there were 3 production runs of the La Grande, and in fact the third run was done during the '76 model year, so thoes colors were used.  He says the factory didn't plan on selling any 1303 models in the US, so these "76" La Grande cars were titled as '75s.  I personally think this can help explain the difference of ideas previously stated in this thread.  It does make sence that there would not be too many supers for this model year, since VW was trying to get everyone interested in the Rabbit.  A Rabbit would be a step up from the basic beetle, like the super was. :thumbs-up:


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post Oct 24 2003, 23:20
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Well "shiver me timbers" or something like that...I guess that sounds pretty resonable...I'm surprised I did not know that...I've had my eyes plastered to the Sports Bug for so long I put the La Grande on the back burner...and still is #2 to SB! in my book....Thanks for that research at VW school! If this in fact is true, can we still consider this a Special Edition? It certainly looks like one!
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post Oct 25 2003, 22:00
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I would still consider it a special edition car.  It was more than a standard model would be.  I guess we should think of it like the epilog cabrio.  It was a special model to end the production run, and if anyone has car 1352267815, Garwood lists this as the last one produced!  I think if we are including, the Big beetle, and the GSR, we are thinking globally, and therefore a special edition.  Production ended for the 1303 on Nov. 1 1975.


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post Oct 26 2003, 19:23
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Ok...then we can consider these cars Special Edition even though all '75 Supers imported to the US were La Grande....very interesting!
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like I said earlier, all 1975 super beetles are la grandes.

finally you all believe that!?

btw, model year 1976 special editions listed at www.sebeetles.com says that there is a two convertible special editons;
1. S 739 triple white and 2. bicentennial convertibe

but but, these both are same special editions, really!!!

peoples talk about triple white convertibles, but even model year 1976 and 1979 are different in many ways etc...

ī76 triple white; no originally white wall tires, no alpine white paint, seats basket weave design and so on... 1979 is more S 723 than  S 739 special edition! 1979 triple white interior is same than S765 interior, also dash is same etc...

all that seems to be so simple, isnīt so!
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post Oct 26 2003, 22:01
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looks like someone in Florida just put one on Ebay.  It is just listed as 75 super beetle  Item number: 2439604694.  Just incase anybody wants one now!  It's been painted, and is not at all stock, but it does have the "wood" dash, and fancier steering wheel.


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I saw that car earlier today...would need a complete make over..and the motor is not original so forget trying to get that inspected in any state with emissions...unless there is an age cutoff.. there is a set of 4.5 sport wheels on the SAMBA for 100....the price is pretty reasonable...if the car is solid. Good project anyway.
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